Wednesday, May 30

Jim Goldstein Gives Us Some Great Advice On Fellow Photographers


Jim claims; “I've been meaning to share one of these stories for a while. Now that I have a story to offset it I felt the time was right to share it. Bottom line... photographers need to be cool with each other and avoid being jerks.”

Photographers: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly

As a photographer I consider myself fortunate to be alive during an amazing time where a resurgence in photography, thanks to digital, has paralleled an unprecedented revolution in communication, thanks to the Internet. The Internet has facilitated a constant buzz and chatter relating to everything photography enabling us to learn, gain inspiration and even compete. Every moment of the day we are bombarded with photography whether we’ve taken and shared our photo(s) or someone else has shared their photo(s) with us in the news, on a forum, on a social media site, etc. If you take a moment to put that Internet chatter and buzz on pause and strip away our cameras and computers we are left to see the individuals behind it all. We may not literally see every photographer worldwide, but in our day to day interaction we can see the qualities these people bring to the photography community. We see human nature at its best, worst and ugliest form.

Over the past year I’ve had a couple of experiences that warranted a discussion on photographer ethics, but I put it off. I put off the discussion because it was so disheartening. I was witness to the bad and the ugly, but recently I experienced the good… in fact the very good. Given the nature of my most recent experience I felt I could share my stories so that there was some perspective if not balance. After all I didn’t want to leave you feeling as disheartened as I had and I wanted to highlight an example of where photographers acted their best, exemplifying how our community could be and should be… all the time.


The Bad & The Ugly

Less than a year ago I was in one of my favorite locations, Glacier National Park. It was one of the few times I’ve had the opportunity to visit Logan Pass, home to amazing high altitude meadows. The scenery in this location is jaw dropping with craggy mountain peaks of exposed rock towering above fragile green meadows filled with alpine flowers and softly running creeks and waterfalls. At certain times of the year visitors are confined to boardwalks to minimize foot traffic across the meadow helping them stay healthy and productive.


On the morning I was visiting I witnessed a photographer walking across an area outside the permitted boardwalk, along a perpendicular stone ledge (non continuous) that stretched out to the small valley below. He was returning to the boardwalk. As it so happens the valley below is home to a highly sought after waterfall to photograph. I approached the photographer to let him know that the meadow was closed in case he missed the signs and to make small talk as opposed to being confrontational. Here the wild ride begins and to keep it short I’ll summarize the events that transpired in our conversation:

♦ When discussing the meadow closure the photographer felt he knew better than the park service stating the meadow does just fine with foot traffic, after all he’s been visiting the park for decades and there has been no impact to the meadow that he’s seen.

♦ When asking where the highly sought after waterfall was I was told it was still under tens of feet of snow given the time of year. This turned out to be a lie as the waterfall could be seen if you knew where to look. I was able to see it later on my hike up the boardwalk.

♦ When making small talk to learn about his photography and workshops I was told a fake name and given a fake web site URL

♦ When asking about good alternate photography subjects, not subject to the meadow closure, I was pointed to subjects in the opposite direction of the highly sought after waterfall and told times that were polar opposite to when the best time to take photos truly was. If it was a sunset location I was told to go there at sunrise and vice versa.

Fortunately on this trip I had enough information and experience to know that the photographer I had run into was unscrupulous and untrustworthy. It was a very unfortunate encounter, but one that was an eye opener to a side of photography I’ve rarely seen.

The Good (If Not Great)

Recently I ventured out to Lassen National Forest to photograph the annular solar eclipse. The goal was to see the moon centered over the sun revealing a perfect ring of fire around the moon. I had an idea of where to go to make this happen, but not an exact location. Referencing a NASA Google Maps mashup I found a stretch of highway that would allow me to get well positioned to get the photo I had in mind. After driving 5 ½ hours I knew I was in the right place after seeing a small cluster of photographers and astronomy enthusiasts set up at a turnout. What made me realize this was the spot? Easy the astronomy enthusiasts had gigantic telescopes, up to 16”, set up.


I arrived with an hour to go before the eclipse began, but after I set up my camera I realized I was not going to be capturing any photos worth my while. My plan to stack two vari-ND filters on my 400mm lens was a failed plan as it was introducing too much reflection and ghosting of the sun. Before I gave up hope though I talked with the people around me who knew what they were doing. While I didn’t know any of the people around me, they were well versed in photographing solar eclipses and I was able to glean enough information from them allowing me to create a makeshift solar filter from a pair of eclipse glasses I received from a friend. By holding the filter over my lens I was one step closer to getting a decent shot.

2 minutes later another photographer came over to set up his camera. Space filled up quickly at the rest stop so I offered to remove my extra tripod & camera so he could set up. We got to talking and low and behold he lived about a mile from me. Seeing that I was holding up a filter to my camera by hand he offered to give me a piece of thick paper, blue painters tape and scissors. I instantly took him up on his offer and made an impromptu custom fitted solar filter from my eclipse glasses. It was because of the generosity of several people (my friend providing the eclipse glasses, a stranger providing various supplies and the collective knowledge of the people around me) that allowed me to successfully photograph my first solar eclipse.


Final Thoughts

Back when I was in Glacier National Park it seemed that the ethos of fellow photographers were as bad as they could be. My outlook on the photography community was at an all time low. After my time in Lassen my faith was completely restored. Yes there are always bad apples out there, but at the same time there are some incredible people who are always happy to help.

Over the past year I’ve continued to probe and experiment to see exactly what is the state of ethos and camaraderie amongst photographers and along the way I’ve learned a few important things that lay the foundation to the “good” (if not great):

1. It always pays to talk to your neighboring photographers.

2. Be as generous to others as you’d like others to be with you.

3. Never assume anything when sizing up a photographer as you never know who might be setting up next to you.

4. Always share your contact info to swap notes and see each others photos after the shoot.

5. Don’t get so caught up in your shoot that you lose sight of having fun and making new friends.

So while there’s always a presence of photographers that are good, bad and ugly, the ratio of these types of photographers is dependent on you. The more generous and considerate you are with others, the more generous and considerate others will be with you and those they encounter on their future outings.

Twisted Trees

Twisted Trees, Glacier National Park

You can Follow Jim @ JMG-Galleries-Jim M. Goldstein on Google+ under Photography And Art. He’s an awesome photographer and has some great tips about taking pictures.

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To see his work check out his JMG Galleries.

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  1. Hi Bekkie, yes I've met all of the above, good, bad and ugly in the industry. I've had coworkers stab me in the back and more. Thank God I'm no longer in the industry.

    1. All I ever wanted was to have someone like my photographs and at one time was hoping to be in the industry but after reading this and hearing what you have to say about it I figure it's like any other job. There's the good, the bad, and the ugly in all industries; even electronics. As human beings I guess we just can't get away from the fact that as humans we are flawed. When I was selling my art it was the same thing really, what a shame that people have to be that way with one another but it's true. Being at the top isn't always what it's stacked up to be. I'm glad you were in the industry though because your work is so good Horst! And I'm happy to hear you are enjoying your retirement! My gosh, it's Friday already where does the time go? ♥

  2. A message 2 start ur day
    A prayer 2 bless ur way
    A cheer 2 perfect ur day
    & A moment 2 say
    Take care & hv a nice day

    1. You too Moonlight! Have a wonderful weekend my friend! ♥

  3. In just love When morning gets here ..
    Cuz i can send a Great Big Good Morning sms
    to my bestest friends what a lovely way
    to start my day .. Hugs and kissers ..
    Snow White..

    1. Thinking of you too Snow White. Did you ever see any of the new Snow White movies?

  4. See outside the window..
    Sun rising for u flowers smiling for u..
    Birds singing for u.. bcoz last night..
    I told them to wish u a wonderful good morning..
    Night Lady

    1. And I wish you a Happy first day of Summer Nicki!

  5. blessings ....
    I hope you are feeling better and your health is in a great place. I know last week you weren't feeling well.

    This piece on photography was informative thanks.

    Have a blessed Sunday and a fabulous week ahead.

    1. I'm good now Rapsody, thanx for your concern. I had a small cold but felt really bad for two days. It wouldn't do to be sick for the first day of Summer! I need to watch my time offline and get some blogs wrote! How do you find the time? Lol! Thanks for reading me and bless you! I hope your week is all good.

  6. Ha en fin midsommar och dröm vackra drömmar..
    Kram Aurora

    1. Happy Summer Aurora and thanx for visiting!♥

  7. Happy Midsummer to you Bekkie :) I really enjoyed this piece on photography, thanks for sharing :)

    1. Hey Poppy glad to hear from you and that you're good! Yes, I'm guilty for not having any new blogs up but I'm glad you liked the older blogs. One good thing about having this website is by now it almost runs itself. Almost. Tee hee! I do need to write a new blog once and awhile don't I? Much love!


I hope you like the geekiness and topics that I write about in Wonderland. This is an older blog so I don't write very often anymore, however, the posts from the past are still enjoyable and I wrote on a plethora of subjects so give my Wonderland a try you may like it. Big hug!

BTW I have Comment Moderation turned on for the rude ones who have to leave fake comments with poorly hidden links in them. You ruin it for everyone but you already know that.